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  • Hey Una! I know you were just on here, so you might not come back for a while, but I would greatly appreciate it if you somehow use ESP and see my message very soon.

    Anyway, I don't know if you're aware, but Wikispaces is closing all of its sites within the next year. This includes the Savage Dragon site, which I believe is the best source of information on Savage Dragon, since our pages on that series and its characters have not been updated for some time. They continue to update their site. I just checked, and they have a page for #231, that came out last Wednesday.

    I joined Wikispaces a few minutes ago under the name "Image_Comics_Database" and sent the three organizers of the site the following message:

    "Dear _,

    Greetings! I am one of the administrators for the Image Comics Database, the "world's largest encyclopedia focused on Image Comics" (as it says on our wiki site).
    You can call me Ben. Our website contains over 7,000 pages of material relating to the now 25 year-old Image Comics company. However, it doesn't have everything.

    Getting to the point, I would like to talk about the future of the Savage Dragon wiki on Wikispaces.

    I saw a note put out by Wikispaces that they would be closing all of their sites, including this one, within the next year, possibly in less than 6 months.
    I consider this news to be unfortunate, to say the least. Although the Image wiki does contain a lot of material about Savage Dragon, I believe this site contains more.
    That's a good thing! This site is constantly being updated with modern material. It's a shame that you'll soon have to close up shop. Which is why I'm here.

    I was wondering if I could receive your permission to obtain the material contained in, well, this entire website.
    The purpose of which would be preserving it and the Savage Dragon information, on the Image Comics Database.

    If this is a problem for you in any way then I understand, and I'd be happy to discuss it with you, the other organizers of this site, and the other Image wiki administrators.
    I simply do not want the hard work put into this site to go to waste. You all have done a tremendous job here.

    Just so you know, I'm only a college student myself, so I'm a bit unaware of any legal issues that may pertain to what I'm proposing, if there are any.
    Also, since this site will still be around for at least a few months, I get if you need time to think or discuss it with the other organizers of this site.
    I am sending this same message to the other 2 organizers of this site, and all of you are obviously welcome to join the Image wiki if you wish, no matter what happens.
    And if you do join, you can in fact continue to update Savage Dragon material, on our wiki.

    Please get back to me as soon as you feel you can. Thank you for your consideration.
    - Ben, administrator of the Image Comics wiki"

    Is that alright? To incorporate their material into our own wiki since they'll be shut down soon? Please get back to me as soon as you can, I hope I didn't overstep by messaging them. But if I took fine action, I'd like your support (as long as you can give it) and advice on what to do next and how to cover it.

    I'd take charge of copying and reformatting all of their material onto our own wiki, which I believe will be my 2nd biggest project (my first will start this weekend, when I plan to start a massive rehaul of every Invincible-related page on the whole wiki).

    Again, please get back to me as soon as you can. Sorry for the long message.

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    • UPDATE! One of the organizers responded with this:

      "Hey Ben,

      Myself as well as Gavin Higginbotham (Savage Dragon editor) and Erik Larsen (Savage Dragon creator) serve as admins of this wiki. We are looking at options to keep it going. Because of it's long history and the hundreds of characters Erik has created, not only do readers find it useful, it also helps Erik and his team (his editor and colorists) keep track of the characters and their designs. We'd be open to merging with you guys but would need more info on how it would be handled. Would we be able to keep all of the information that we have? Is there enough storage space available for all of our images? Would you assist us in getting everything over? Would you be able to make the three of us administrators?

      -Craig"

      So here's what I'm about to respond with:

      "Dear Craig,

      Thanks for getting back to me. I completely agree that the content on this site should be preserved and continue to be updated. As a recent reader of Savage Dragon myself, this site has been extremely useful to me personally, and if it's useful to Mr. Larsen and his team then that's reason enough to keep this site active.

      Because the Image wiki does have some Savage Dragon material already, and if we were to merge, things might get the teensiest bit complicated. Our sites differ. I can't completely get rid of the writing on my site, because for instance that in particular was written by the Image wiki's founder, and I might get flak for deleting it. At the same time though, we really want to merge with you guys, so I'll talk with the other administrators and figure out how to keep your content. If we ultimately have to get rid of our own content to do so, then I'll indeed take the flak for that.

      As for your other questions: on a wiki such as ours, storage space is hardly an issue. We'll be able to handle all of the pages and images you can throw at us. And of course, I will assist in getting everything over, and even do most of the work myself if I have to. Finally, there's only one user on the Image wiki who can currently make people administrators, but he'll probably be okay with it.

      If you have any more questions, I'll try to answer as soon as I can! I hope you continue to consider a merger with us. Thanks!
      - Ben"

      Highlight #1: I didn't know that two of the organizers are a Savage Dragon editor and frickin Erik Larsen himself, and I sent both of them my original message, plus a little tidbit to Mr. Larsen to what I thought was just his username. HELP!

      Highlight #2: They're open to merging! Thoughts? With the Invincible wiki, it's my understanding that we deleted most of their info for the most part; it wasn't handled in the best way. I want this to be handled in a great way. We had more Invincible material, this time they have more Savage Dragon material. Anyway, can we do it? I know I'm an admin but I'm still hesitant to go through with this without your approval at least.

      Highlight #3: I'd do most of it myself as I told you, maybe with DeCast or Brian if he comes back, or if Craig wants to help. But could/would you make them admins? I mean, two of them actually worked at Image. Don't know about Craig, but it'd be fine, right? None of them would cause trouble, and probably only edit Savage Dragon things anyway which we need done.

      PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE answer me soon, as I'm about to send the reply to Craig. Also the Invincible rehaul might be delayed if we do this, and if I get more college work. But seriously, please get back to me ASAP! This would be MAJOR for the wiki!

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    • Una~ I think Ben really needs some admin aid here. It's a bit over my head when it comes to my limited knowledge of life, the universe and everything.  :) Hello!!! Help us Obiwan Kenobi, you are the only hope!

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    • Update again:

      "Ok. I am working with the other to way our options. I'll let you know when we have come to a decision. In the meantime please inquire whether we would be able to be made administrators if joining.

      thanks, Craig"

      All they want to know at this point is if they can be administrators. Would that be alright?

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    • Obviously, didn't see this. Fair Use would say if they own the content (as in they wrote it) they can do what they want with it. They're more then welcome to move it here. Being so absent, I'm not sure what happened with this and what all happened.

      For a merger they'd most likely need admin access to be able to handle everything. I'm ok with that if it helps them and you guys out. It's probably a large task.

      Perhaps you've solved everything already and I'm late to the party. Please let me know what the current status is and what you'd need.

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    • Hey! Welcome back for a bit! No nothing was resolved, which is why I did not put another update in this thread. I personally have had a lot to deal with in my own life, but I can make more time for this if we can have them put their stuff here and need help with that.

      I think it'd be great if you could make them all admins. Wikispaces closes July 31st I believe, so I hope we can do this all in time. I wouldn't need anything else from you unless they ask, I'd move anything they needed moved.

      Thanks!

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    • Yeah, i'm good with that plan. Anything to help promote Image Comics!

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